topspin/slice service with forehand grip?

[A-Rod]

thank u a-rod for the the encouraging commend. that´s it what i need

yes every time again No how i said i do my serves with zhis grip. That's why i can't give other tipps. But i'm sure you'll solve your problem!

[african tiger]

that one may help

[Hawkeye2]

@African Tiger

Hi,

i'm not saying you should use a normal forehand grip on the serve, except when you want to serve like a house wife in a recreation doubles...

Maybe I should try to explain a forehand grip in my own understanding...

Starting with a neutral hammer grip (hold the racket like hammer as if you would try to hit a nail with the frame).

Assuming you're right- and singlehanded, any turn of the handle to the left will result in a forehand grip, starting with an eastern grip, semi western and western.

Starting from a hammer grip any turn of the handle to the right will result in a backhand grip...

When serving a flat first serve you can perfectly use this hammer grip, or maybe even turn the handle very slightly to the left, this would further reduce the spin on the ball. This would be the forehand grip I was referring to, meaining a very slight forehand grip

That's why I was talking about a forehand grip on the serve.

You can't use a semiwestern or western grip on the serve without looking like someone serving with a frying pan...

To serve with a "topspin slice" according to your definition it would help to use a slight backhand grip. Starting from a hammer grip turn the handle a little bit to the right for a slight backhand grip, turn just as much as you're comfortable with.

Good Luck !

Bye

@Bomberman

Aus der Grafik ergibt sich ganz gut was African Tiger meint:

Du triffst den Ball beim Topspin Slice so, daß er eine vorwärts-seitlich Rotation bekommt also tatsächlich auf ca. 1 Uhr getroffen wird.

Gruß

[african tiger]

thank so much hawkeye2 for the explanation, precise and funny! the slight FH is what i mean, having experienced the pure FH for serve (the ball did all but going over the net)
now, we´ve got there where we used to be: u are recommending the slight BH or the hammer for the topspin slice serve and i can do it only with the slight FH! is that not crazy?
bomberman described well the topspin slice serve: forward element, slice element, one may add upward element for the top spin for top spin is caused through that upward movement of the racket.

so long folk

[Hawkeye2]

@African Tiger

Hi,

first of all you should feel comfortable with the grip you use.

If you are and the stroke you exercised works to your satisfaction then the grip is perfectly fine.

Have fun !

[african tiger]

hi folk
that weekend´s going to be the one of truth. Just kidding! bui i would definitely try all the recommended grips and let u know the results eventually.
have a lovely time
a.tiger

[A-Rod]

Thank you and have fun while trying the grips. You'll find something what's right for you. And if it's the forehandgrip it's no problem

[african tiger]

Hi folk
I spent the whole weekend alone on the court, wanted desperately to find out the truth about those grips and even managed to find one: indeed there are some of them!
Those who insisted on the semicontinental grip for the topspin slice serve did it right I think, having got the ball up to 90% into the service box myself with pretty power with that grip. But why did I not manage to do that and was forced to move the grip to the slight FH at first place? Now, I just did not do the right movement and the ball went to the net. Moving the grip to FH gave me a wider margin of net clearance but that did not mean in any way, that the semicontinental grip was wrong.
Now, on Sunday. I had finally managed to get that very 90% hard 1. serve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and would abandon the slight FH grip. I realized that holding the racket that way, it is obviously open a bit and in oder to avoid the flat hit, I was forced to strike from the center to 1.30. Now, with the semicontinental grip, that hitting form…to happens naturally, the arm is more at ease and the service is much more powerfull.
As far as I am concern, I would consider the question of the right grip for the topspin slice serve as answered. Thank you all for your contributions, advises and encouragements, especially A-rod and Hawkeyes2. Meet you some where on Saitenforum soon.
African Tiger
keep the ball rolling

[Hawkeye2]

@african tiger

Hi,

nice to hear that some things worked out for you.

Just keep trying !

Bye